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>> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay down campaign debt. guess who's getting blamed for his election loss in the fund raising e-mail? quote, republicans all over the country were forced to accept defeat rather than celebrate victory. in our case we found ourselves caught in the liberal media cross hairs. never has indiana seen a more obvious example of media bias by reporters more interested in defeating conservatives than reporter the news. rnc chair reince priebus had hi
>> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life...
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one of them by president obama, that was yesterday, then a counteroffer by the speaker. that was today. all of this as the president tells abc news tonight that he is confident that republicans will not hold middle class tax cuts hostage. so there's a lot of news that's all of a sudden coming out. after some relative quiet. our white house correspondent dan lothian is on the case and joins me now by telephone, because you've been working your sources. take me into the conversation. all of this breaking late today and it sounds good. it sounds at least like there's some movement, dan. >> reporter: that's right. that's always been the issue, because as you know, it was just last week we were talking about the fact that there were no talks ongoing, not even behind the scenes, and now these latest developments and as you pointed out, we didn't even know the white house had submitted another offer yesterday but confirmation coming from a senior administration official that in fact, the white house did submit that offer yesterday to house republicans. today there was a counter
one of them by president obama, that was yesterday, then a counteroffer by the speaker. that was today. all of this as the president tells abc news tonight that he is confident that republicans will not hold middle class tax cuts hostage. so there's a lot of news that's all of a sudden coming out. after some relative quiet. our white house correspondent dan lothian is on the case and joins me now by telephone, because you've been working your sources. take me into the conversation. all of this...
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over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and making sure that tax rates on wealthiest go up is a big part of that deal. >> he ran on half of tax increases proposing, he ran on a planned approach, i'm sorry this is politics, and he should admit it. lou: another thing that bears admission that this president saying it was not about economics, to have that right to work law go into effect in michigan, he said it was about politics, i tried to demonstrate how it is both and about power, right-to-work looks to be a very serious challenge to democratic power, with 24 right-to-work states. >> absolutely. a big nasda challenge. where does the money come from if you don't have unions giving it to you. >> indiana, gained 14,000 manufacturing jobs, this is politics, it also about getting jobs back, otherwise -- -- lou: we'll have to leave it there thank you very much. >> thank
over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and making sure that tax rates on wealthiest go up is a big part of that deal. >> he ran on half of tax increases proposing, he ran on a planned approach, i'm sorry this is politics, and he should admit it. lou: another thing that bears admission that this president saying it was not about economics, to have that right to work law go into effect in michigan, he said it was about politics,...
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so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that boehner will cut a deal that he can't actually deliver, or at the last minute he'll back off a deal because he won't have the votes. the white house, by the way, they don't think the debt ceiling is republican leverage. when you talk to them, they are all steel right now on that subject. their position is simple, and they deliver it in the tone of voice bruce willis reserves for talking to terrorists. they are not negotiating. not on that. if republicans go over the cliff and try to open up talks for raising the debt ceiling, t
so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out....
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republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >>here are the psint's spenng cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. now, if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> on that question of whether or not we have put forward specific spending cuts, the answer is is we have. not only that, we signed law a trillion dollars in specific spending cuts. so if you combine what is signed into law with what we proposed versus the total absence of any specificity from the republicans for a sin
republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >>here are the psint's spenng cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to...
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. >> isn't that the obvious, republicans are in favor of a tax cut? i don't feel that's moving too much to the center. >> mathematical sense, what obama has said is he wants to extend 98% of the tax cuts. he's also said i want to cut medicare in some ways and social security maybe later. but those are big ideological victories for the republican party, if you come to think about it. a lot of democrats would rather not think about cuts, they'd want to continue to do stimulus spending. >> the 2% they don't agree on is so important and symbolic for the democrats and something that president obama campaigned on and feels that, you know, he has a mandate to do, which is to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> to your point, jane, there's a sense of an emotional investment in not getting these top marginal tax cuts extended. i want to play sound from harry reid this morning on the floor. you get a sense the republican resistance is theater, but there is a genuine belief they cannot extend these things. let's listen to harry reid. >> how many times is charlie brown
. >> isn't that the obvious, republicans are in favor of a tax cut? i don't feel that's moving too much to the center. >> mathematical sense, what obama has said is he wants to extend 98% of the tax cuts. he's also said i want to cut medicare in some ways and social security maybe later. but those are big ideological victories for the republican party, if you come to think about it. a lot of democrats would rather not think about cuts, they'd want to continue to do stimulus...
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i am a republican, not a rich one. i would be willing to give up the obama care. this health care system now, which is free, i would be willing to give up the credit card for congress. and president obama's credit card. let them give up some deductions. let them take spending cuts and be fiscally responsible. the pros and cons, i have seen people that do not pay in and get $1,000. but it does not matter how much we pay or take away, but there is still spending. i do not care what your income is, i am a real-estate agent. that is how i make a living. it is very important for a young couple, to put them in a home. to help them throughout the years. far as i'm concerned, president obama had unlimited spending dollars. host: how much does the mortgage deduction help you and your business? caller: it is extremely important. host: does it help your bottom line? do you think you do more sales? caller: yes, it does. it makes more people eligible. these kids, these couples, they work very hard to say about their money, their down payment. yes, it is very important. host: t
i am a republican, not a rich one. i would be willing to give up the obama care. this health care system now, which is free, i would be willing to give up the credit card for congress. and president obama's credit card. let them give up some deductions. let them take spending cuts and be fiscally responsible. the pros and cons, i have seen people that do not pay in and get $1,000. but it does not matter how much we pay or take away, but there is still spending. i do not care what your income...
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. >> obama: the most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes don't go up on january 1st and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> yeah, we'll see. >> stephanie: that's what john yarmuth thinks will happen. the president's carney. >> very specific spending cuts, including savings and entitlement programs and again it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document. >> stephanie: liz in illinois. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hey, liz. >> caller: hi. i'm in illinois. we don't care about the tools in wisconsin, indiana and michigan. because we this -- they have to learn that these republicans aren't going to do -- >> stephanie: thank you, liz. i enjoyed your work as charlie brown's teacher. i don't know what was wrong with that call. was it me? [ applause ] >> she was using her "sports illustrated" sneaker phone. or football phone. whatever. >> stephanie: something about republicans in michigan. wa wa. she had some good points. >> speak directly in
. >> obama: the most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes don't go up on january 1st and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> yeah, we'll see. >> stephanie: that's what john yarmuth thinks will happen. the president's carney. >> very specific spending cuts, including savings and entitlement programs and again it's not a mystery. we've seen this...
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>> yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. [ laughter ] which boehner replied, maybe i will. which obama replied. stop talking to me! to which boehner replied, stop copying me. to which obama replied whatever. to which boehner replied, whatever times infinity. to which obama replied, damn, he went for infinity it will? it is like chirp, you have to admit. also the good news is, i hear they are making progress. i think good news. who knows. behind the scenes. it's in front of the cameras when they choose to show they're not making progress. >> steve: they don't want to tip their hands. they want to make it seem like they're going for the biggest deal as possible. >> gretchen: if only it weren't so serious for the future of our nation and our children. >> brian: can i name drop? >> steve:
>> yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. [ laughter ] which boehner replied, maybe i will. which obama replied. stop talking to me! to which boehner replied, stop copying me. to which...
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tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the higher number of women increases the chances. we will see. >> i saw the women here smiling. we were talking about how collaborative they were. the guys, not so much. >> we don't smile. i agree. the more women the better. i'm agreeing with you. can i say nothing? i said the more women, the better. i'm agreeing with you. the more women, the less self destructive egos and getting to a deal. do you have a problem with that. >> no,i don't. >> go with it. i give up. >> all right. still ahead, hollywood mogul joins us on set and author sebastian younger will be here. more morning joe in a moment. ♪ for
tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the...
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but the house republicans will not take it up. i say, if they were to take it up today -- they are not doing anything over there anyway -- pick it up today, pass it, the president signings it, i sigh you're going to see a -- i think you're going to see middle-class families do a little more christmas shopping and that'll help spur our economy. i would point out that some of my friends on the other side of the aisle here and in the house have been talking about do that very thing. so there are some republicans that recognize that this would be one of the best things we could do; that is, pass the middle-class tax cut that we passed here in july. nonetheless, i keep hearing that what we really need to do to drove the so-called fiscal cliff -- to address the so-called fiscal cliff to enact significant entitlement reform. now, what does that mean, "entitlement reform?" when you hear our friends the republicans and others talk about entitlement reform, they're talking about three things: cutting social security, cutting medicare, and c
but the house republicans will not take it up. i say, if they were to take it up today -- they are not doing anything over there anyway -- pick it up today, pass it, the president signings it, i sigh you're going to see a -- i think you're going to see middle-class families do a little more christmas shopping and that'll help spur our economy. i would point out that some of my friends on the other side of the aisle here and in the house have been talking about do that very thing. so there are...